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NOTE: The meeting has been moved from 17:00 UTC to 18:00 UTC due to community demand (DST).

This IRC Meeting is planned for 18:00 UTC on Wednesday, 1 February 2012.

Weekly meetings?

During last week's meeting, attendees discussed having weekly IRC meetings for the foreseeable future. Matthew would like a vote on this.

Should we vote on having weekly meetings? (Log In to vote.)
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Zend\View Proposal By Matthew Weier O'Phinney

The View RFC has been up for a few weeks. While a few issues are still being worked out, a number of folks have had a chance now to play with it and examine the architecture. Matthew would like a vote on the RFC during this meeting.

Should we vote on the View Layer RFC? (Log In to vote.)
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Discussion of Coding Standard Ballot Items By Ralph Schindler

While previously discussed and approved in last weeks meeting, Ralph would like to discuss the completeness of the poll located at POLL - Coding Standards for Type Names

Should discuss and vote on approving this poll's content? (Log In to vote.)
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PHP 5.4?

With PHP 5.4 on the verge of a stable release, the question arises: should ZF2 target PHP 5.4?

Pros:

  • We could reduce total amount of code, and thus make maintenance easier, using traits within the framework (instead of simply offering them for optional consumption).
  • Baseline performance would improve due to the performance improvements made to PHP 5.4.
  • ZF2's adoption of PHP 5.4 could help with that version's adoption in distributions and ISPs. (Though this is definitely up for debate.)

Cons:

  • Many developers are already targeting 5.3 since that is the version we've announced publicly for some time, and upping the version could change or upset migration plans already in place.
  • PHP 5.3 adoption is still low, and 5.3 adoption is more likely in upcoming LTS distributions than 5.4.
  • We cannot predict how quickly ISPs/hosting providers will offer 5.4 (and 5.3 adoption in ISPs has been slow).

One thing brought up is that we can offer some 5.4-specific features without actually building on them internally. As an example, we already have a "ProvidesEvents" trait available, which you can consume if you are on PHP 5.4, but which the framework code itself does not consume in order to stay 5.3-compatible.

The intention is not to make a decision at this point, but to gather feedback and discuss.

Should we discuss using PHP 5.4? (Log In to vote.)
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