<p>Woohoo!</p>

<p>How to you plan to implement the typical static find-calls? Have you thought about __callStatic()?</p>

<p>I love this.........<br />
haha just like ruby on rail...</p>

<p>but why must using php 5.3? </p>

<p>I personnaly do love this pattern (ActiveRecord) ; anyhow, I'm wondering if two so close but so different patterns (ActiveRecord / DB Table Row Gateway) implemented in the same framework is not too much...</p>

<p>Still, I would love such a component <ac:emoticon ac:name="wink" /></p>

<p>This looks quite good... but... I don't want to sound rude or anything, but wouldn't it be more beneficial for everyone to concentrate efforts on a single ORM library, like Doctrine?</p>

<p>Wouldn't it be better to handle the relationsships in an protected variable $_relations, $_relationsships or something alike, rather than an initialization function (maybe making init function optional).</p>

<p>Relationsships are more an description of an object rather than something that has to be "initialized" in a function.</p>

<p>But maybe this is just the request of a nitpicker...</p>

<p>Also there is currently no UseCase for the integration of Validators on certain ActiveRecord fields, I would like to see how that might be integrated and configured.</p>

<p>Hi Ken, if you want to start working with this before 5.3, I've found an alternative solution for those static calls:</p>

<ac:macro ac:name="code"><ac:plain-text-body><![CDATA[
class Person extends Zend_Db_ActiveRecord_Abstract
{
public static function init()

}

$person = Person::init()->find(1);
...

]]></ac:plain-text-body></ac:macro>

<p>Hope it helps,</p>

<p>Aldemar</p>

<p>I wanna that you think about inheritance. Hibernate have 3 way to make it, for 3 different environment. The Joined inheritance is most common. The way consist in 2 classes in your project and you have 2 tables in database scheme. I wanna a code like this:</p>

<ac:macro ac:name="code"><ac:plain-text-body><![CDATA[
create table person(
id int,
name varchar(255_,
id_father int,
) and teacher(id int(pk), id_person int(fk), school varchar).
]]></ac:plain-text-body></ac:macro>

<ac:macro ac:name="code"><ac:plain-text-body><![CDATA[

class Person extends Zend_Db_ActiveRecord_Abstrac
{
protected $_nameTable = "person";

public static function initRelationships()
{
    Person::hasOne('Person as Father', array('local'=>'id_father', 'foreign'=>'id');
}

class Teacher extends Person
{
protected $_nameTable = "teacher";
protected $_someAttributeToRelationship = array('local'=>'id_person', 'foreign'=>'id');
}

$teacher_father = new Person();
$teacher_father->name = "Father's Name";
$teacher_father->save();

$teacher = new Teacher();
$teacher->name = "Teacher's Name";
$teacher->school = "School's Name";
$teacher->Father = $teacher_father;
$teacher->save();

]]></ac:plain-text-body></ac:macro>

<p>This code reflect my intention. So think about this.</p>

<p>Regards </p>

<p>I wanna that you think about inheritance. Hibernate have 3 way to make it, for 3 different environment. The Joined inheritance is most common. The way consist in 2 classes in your project and you have 2 tables in database scheme. I wanna a code like this:</p>

<p>SQL create table scheme.</p>
<ac:macro ac:name="code"><ac:plain-text-body><![CDATA[
create table person(
id int auto_increment,
name varchar(255_,
id_father int,
primary key(id)
);
create table teacher(
id int auto_increment,
id_person int,
school varchar,
primary key(id)
)
]]></ac:plain-text-body></ac:macro>

<p>PHP code wanted</p>
<ac:macro ac:name="code"><ac:plain-text-body><![CDATA[

class Person extends Zend_Db_ActiveRecord_Abstrac
{
protected $_nameTable = "person";

public static function initRelationships()
{
    Person::hasOne('Person as Father', array('local'=>'id_father', 'foreign'=>'id');
}

class Teacher extends Person
{
protected $_nameTable = "teacher";
protected $_someAttributeToRelationship = array('local'=>'id_person', 'foreign'=>'id');
}

$teacher_father = new Person();
$teacher_father->name = "Father's Name";
$teacher_father->save();

$teacher = new Teacher();
$teacher->name = "Teacher's Name";
$teacher->school = "School's Name";
$teacher->Father = $teacher_father;
$teacher->save();

]]></ac:plain-text-body></ac:macro>

<p>This code reflect my intention. So think about this.</p>

<p>Regards </p>

<p>Hi Ken,</p>

<p>I have implemented similar thing in my project, and it is a a huge help for new programmers. It is so easy for them to do the regular operations.</p>

<p>I have created table classes and used setters and getters, and a base class that mimics the active record from ruby on rails as you have indicated.</p>

<p>Let me know if I can help in anyway to improvise this component or if you would like to see how I have done it.</p>

<p>Regards,<br />
Sawan</p>

<p>Hi Ken! Are there some news about this proposal? Do you work now on it's implementation?</p>

<p>Regards, Alex.</p>

<p>I know this is dead right now but I personally hope it gets implemented. I have been researching the benefits of different database access patterns for my web app and I would REALLY like to use the Active Record model. I am going to write my own abstract class to make it work, but it would have been so much nicer if ZF supported this.</p>

<p>I've also been researching a bunch on RoR and what I've realized is that one of RoR's strongest features is the Active Record support. In other words, I feel that ZF should invest in this in order to compete with RoR. In my opinion the ZF is so good and widely used because it is so extendable. RoR's strong points are speed. ZF needs to continue with its extendibility and implement the ActiveRecord pattern.</p>

<p>Archiving this proposal, feel free to recover it when you want to work on it again. For more details see <a href="http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Archiving+of+abandoned+proposals+(Feb+5+2011)">this email</a>.</p>